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  • Piggania/List of Cities. Are there any inaccuracies I must change here. I do this kidnd of thing for fun, but I don't want to spread false information, so if you could help me with some population counts, that would be great, thanks!

    (I marked it as non-canon in the categories, so hoepfully that makes it allowable, but if you're not okay with it, that is okay, too)

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    • Yeah this is really cool I appreciate it! It can be canon, however, just make sure to find any possible sources of outside evidence (and cite them) on the populations as you can - be it a comment by me (creator of Piggania) or maybe an excerpt from the Piggania article. If you can't find any evidence on the population status - just go ahead and make it up yourself and I'd be happy to review and do corrections if needed as time goes on. Thank you!

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    • TechKon wrote:
      Yeah this is really cool I appreciate it! It can be canon, however, just make sure to find any possible sources of outside evidence (and cite them) on the populations as you can - be it a comment by me (creator of Piggania) or maybe an excerpt from the Piggania article. If you can't find any evidence on the population status - just go ahead and make it up yourself and I'd be happy to review and do corrections if needed as time goes on. Thank you!

      Ok, thanks!

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    • I've gotten to the point where all the cities on the page have been accounted for. If there are any other unmarked cities or towns in Piggania, please let me know, thank you!

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    • Awesome job - I'll do that if needed, no prob

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    • ok! 

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    • I added a notes section that includes some info about the cities

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    • So, I guess my unofficial census is the official 2020 census, because you changed the stats on the Piggania page.

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    • P.S. if you could, it would be nice to know the head city of government (seat, capital, whatever) for each state. I already know Pig Territory's Oinkopolis, and I assumed Aron was the capital of Eagletopia, but any other info relating to the topic would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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    • Its still an unofficial census but we'll change as times goes on. Also, yeah there's plenty of information to be revised and updated on the Piggania official article so I'll let you know the capitals soon.

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    • ok, thanks!

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    • Are humans still gonna inhabit Piggy Planet with the new Revamp?

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    • Yeah probably

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    • oh...okay.

      Hey, so, Flokk's flag kinda burns my eyes a bit, is it okay if I hold a flag referendum on the forum board where everyobdy submits flag ideas, then they're judged to see what the new flag is?

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    • P.S. How many nations will there be with the revamp?

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    • Yeah Flokk probably does need a new flag. Also I'm not sure yet but Im aiming to have a lot more than the last time

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    • A flag referendum sounds good

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    • ok.

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    • Can I design the area around Rohoveyan just to show a bit of what it may look like? No features, just outlines

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    • Yeah im sitll working on the planet's map so I could incorporate your map design into it

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    • ok, great! (Sorry for late reply, the message didn't show that there was a new reply)

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    • RedRohoveyan

      Red is Rohoveyan, Transparent isn't. I want it to be relatively big, maybe about the size of India

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    • Regions of Rohoveyan

      Labelled regions of Rohoveyan

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    • would Flokk, Piggania, Starsweet, and Porcalonos Islands be in a island region like Oceania on the map?

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    • Pigganian Flag Revamp

      Cerdan's better Piggania flage.

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    • I'm still working on the map ill show you what i have so far

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    • Also, yea I think ill use that flag

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    • Piggy Planet Revised (WIPv1)

      Grid lines and circles are meant to show map distortion - this is an equirectangular cylindrical projection of the planet

      I also haven't added starsweet, your island ideas, or an area for Rohoveyan. I plan to make Starsweet much smaller - maybe the size of a 16x16 pixel area since it is artificially constructed to make the concept seem more realistic
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    • ok

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    • my fav map prjection is Wagner IV because it distorts everything so that everything is accurate to themselves, but inaccurate overall.

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    • RohoveyanPP

      Sorry for washing away part of your grid, but Rohoveyan's there now.

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    • Yeah I can make that happen, good idea

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    • However, I do feel like Piggania or Flock should be smaller, since Rohoveyan has a population of 78 million people while Piggania only has 11 million people, and if you look at the sizes, Rohoveyan is extremely cramped, especially for an Arctic country, which is why I wanted it to be big. I could lessen the population.

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    • Rohoveyan seems to be much larger than Piggania or Flokk to be honest, i think the population difference is probably justified

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    • okay...

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    • Also, I had been thinking; the original history of Piggania I wrote traces back to NASA launching a colony of birds, pigs, and humans to the planet in the 1960s - it would be more realistic for the colonization of the planet to start from then and not in the 1700s I think. I realize this is all alternate history but maybe we can set our nations' histories a little bit further into the future to keep the planets' continuity a bit more sensical and at least a bit similar to reality.

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    • TechKon wrote:
      Also, I had been thinking; the original history of Piggania I wrote traces back to NASA launching a colony of birds, pigs, and humans to the planet in the 1960s - it would be more realistic for the colonization of the planet to start from then and not in the 1700s I think. I realize this is all alternate history but maybe we can set our nations' histories a little bit further into the future to keep it at least a bit similar to reality.

      Oh, I thought Piggy Planet just existed for a very long time with civilization.

      Could pigs and birds inhabit there and not humans or Britain/France, just older pigs and birds?

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    • Yeah I guess we can have just birds and pigs. They could still establish colonies from their respective original countries of origin on Earth like British or French territory.

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    • I guess we dont have to be too logical about this anyways since its all fanfiction type stuff, lol, but lets just make sure we straighten out the continuity of the history so theres no holes in the story or anything

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    • ok, so instead of Britain and France, it's the Kingdom of Snouter and Porkland.

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    • Sounds good

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    • ok

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    • I've been thinking about how to establish Piggy Planet into the Angry Birds continuity/universe a little more. Maybe the birds establish their own space program on earth and blast off - eventually they find a wormhole in our solar system that leads them directly to Piggy Planet's solar system many light years away - they settle on the Pigganian island and colonize. The birds establish a round-trip spacefaring system in and out of the wormhole. The pigs get word of this eventually and try to interfere with their space operation - which is where Angry Birds Space takes place. Maybe after these space battles the pigs try to colonize the new piggy planet as well - landing on Piggania as well. They fight in the Cheunaso War - and the war is ended by a treaty that ends the fight and unites them as a nation - but as a compromise allows Piggania and Piggy Planet to be named *after* the pigs. Idk, these are my ideas. Just spitballin, really.

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    • looks fine

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    • will be slightly different in my continuity, tho.

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    • How so?

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    • I just generally wanna keep Earth and humans out of my continuity, so that.

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    • Yeah humans wont be involved in this story im proposing really. I was planning to only really include Earth in the story as thats where the birds/pigs are originally from - originally residing on Bird Island or Piggy Island

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    • I would like to reach a consensus on the story of piggy planet with you - so things line up properly. Feel free to keep sharing ideas

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    • I just thought it's a seperate AU, no NASA or Earth, just Piggy Planet with birds and pigs.

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    • Ohh I see what you're getting at. Like Piggy Planet is where the birds/pigs actually originate from - and go through a similar history timeline as the ones humans do on Earth? Just an entirely different alternate universe?

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    • Yeah. The timeline isn't necissarily similar to ours, but different from ours. Just a seperate timeline entirely unto itself.

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    • Yeah I can def see that. Personally, I kind of like the space colonization idea/angry birds universe tying into ours - but it doesn't have to necessarily. I just thought about them originating from Bird Island or Piggy Island on Earth since that's what the canon says.

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    • yeah, don't worry, my continuity is different

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    • Wait, i thought we were contributing ideas to the same universe/timeline

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    • Can I share ideas?

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    • Sure!

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    • My ideas:

      • The NASA that sent the birds and pigs to space doesn't stand for National Aeronautics and Space Administration, but something else, as it is not run by humans.
      • Piggy Planet was first colonized in the 1810's (AD (Earth)) because the workers of (bird/pig) NASA have more advanced technology.
      • Several shuttles leading to different Piggy Planet countries were launch from different islands scattered across the world, creating their cultures (eg. the island that launched the shuttle that reached Piggania was cloce to Great Britian).
      • Piggania was colonised in 1840 in Earth time, but 1960 in Piggy Planet time due to Piggy Planet orbiting the sun slower than Earh does.
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    • Interesting ideas. Personally, I was just going to have Piggy Planet events set a bit farther into the future so they have time to colonize. Or, to make things simplest, we could go with Creeper's idea of having an alternate universe with an alternate "earth", if you will, inhabitated by birds/pigs instead of humans - and being called Piggy Planet instead of Earth.

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    • So you and your family dimension hopped?

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    • Nah, just totally ignore the whole family thing that was something me and some other users on here made up for roleplaying/fun a long time ago and its not really canon with the universe we're trying to come up with basically

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    • Oh.

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    • zunds kewl

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    • Piggy Planet Revised V1

      Alright, pretty much done with the map. Remember it is an equirectangular projection so landmasses will be a bit distorted/stretched.

      Here it is. And I did include Rohoveyan in the north and your proposed islands. I shrunk starsweet to a tiny dot below Piggania because I thought it would be a more realistic size for an artificially created mass. I'll create a political map eventually too, and maybe even try to create a legit textured planet map showing elevation, clouds, climate, etc
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    • I'll create the page for the planet itself soon

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    • Will Uket, Vetronam, Bechturon, etc. still be kept?

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    • Probably, but i plan for a lot more nations to be added too

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    • cool!

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    • wait, west of Rohoveyan was a nation, not a sea...

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    • This map is actually really similar to the old one, its just from a different perspective
      Transparent Piggy Planet Map
      Old Piggy Planet Map from new perspective

      These are the same map

       + more detail and landmasses. Old map was a Mercator projection but this new one is Equirectangular - a map projection that distorts landmasses but doesnt unrealistically enlarge them like Mercator does
      Piggy Planet Revised V1

      After adjustments + detail

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    • If you keep Vetronam, add a city named Mhanket.

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    • ok, but I made 55 frames of Rohoveyan with a nation to the west of it rather than a sea, and I had history planned with that nation...

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    • CitiesandDiviisonRoh
      Also, Creeper, what adjustments do you want me to make? The map isnt perfectly true to yours but as far as I can see there is a sea/body of water of some sort in the southwest of your picture like on the map. I can adjust if you need though. 
      Rohoveyan
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    • well, there's a nation to the left...it's drawn as a sea, just deleted from existance

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    • Im not quite sure what you mean, which nation?

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    • CitiesandDiviisonRoh
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    • It's there wayta

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    • no it's a sea

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    • Yeah, its still there on the map. Were you imagining it a bit differently? I can erase some of the sea or something 
      Location

      About the area you circled

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    • TechKon wrote:
      Yeah, its still there on the map. Were you imagining it a bit differently? I can erase some of the sea or something 
      Location

      a bit, yeah. I imagined it a bit wider. Also, IDK why you removed the islands in the south of it?

      But, yeah, it's ok I guess, it wasn't super planned out. Keep the map as is.

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    • Ah my bad i didnt notice those little islands initially. 

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    • all good man! (when you add them in, also add tiny, smaller ones. I want it to look like there are a ton of islands there. Make them stretch northward a ways, so there is quite a bit spaced out along the coast, please, thanks.)

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    • Alright. Also, i did initially try to stretch Rohoveyan to cover each side of the ocean - but it honestly looked a lot more wonky than I had hoped and a bit ridiculous at that as it was ultra-stretched especially with the map distortion itself. In the end i settled on making the nation a bit smaller.

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    • uh-oh..my population isn't looking so good...

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    • What?

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    • There's no way there's 78 million people conglomerated there. In the Arctic. It's now 45 million.

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    • I think that nation size justifies that population tbh, i mean the UK population is like 65 mil and its smaller than that

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    • TechKon wrote:
      I think that nation size justifies that population tbh, i mean the UK population is like 65 mil and its smaller than that

      Is UK in the Arctic? No. It isn't.

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    • I also want Rohoveyan in the far reaches, so if they own an unincorporated territory at the top of the map, that would be great.

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    • It's close though

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    • Not nearly close enough.

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    • What do you want me to do with the map?

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    • Location (1) (1)

      Rohoveyan owns the map top

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    • Also, most of the nation's territory is about in the same latitude as Britain
      Piggy Planet Revised V1 with grid
      Earth equirectangular
      . Also, take into account the position of the planet itself in space and its axial tilt
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    • TechKon wrote:
      Also, most of the nation's territory is about in the same latitude as Britain
      Piggy Planet Revised V1 with grid
      Earth equirectangular
      . Also, take into account the position of the planet itself in space and its axial tilt

      I didn't want that tho, it was more around the latitude of Sakha...but ya had to change the map.

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    • Ohhh I see what youre saying now, I can try to extend the ocean up north then.

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    • okay, thanks very much

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    • Overlayed Maps

      Hmm

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      Overlayed Maps

      Hmm

      what software did you use to make this?

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    • Pinetools.com

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      Pinetools.com

      ok

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    • Test boundaries rohoveyan
      Alright, so I couldnt exactly extend the ocean because it turned out looking wonky but when I make the final political map I'll include Rohoveyan territory along the lines of this: Is this sort of what you were imagining border-wise? It includes the arctic territory as well
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    • yeah. Rohoveyan looks an eensy bit short, but it's all the projection, so it's good. I was planning on the islands in the south of the nation west of Rohoveyan being bigger, but yeah it looks nice!

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    • I will go ahead and add those islands too

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    • TechKon wrote:
      I will go ahead and add those islands too

      thanks. Appreciate the work!

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    • (Also Rohoveyan has an exclave, but I can draw that in later)

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    • Still working on the political map?

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      Still working on the political map?

      I have been trying a relief map of Rohoveyan with TechKon's map. Has bee going poorly, but I still persist.

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    • PiggyIslandNofeaturesoutline

      So, I made this and

      Rohoveyan

      I was wondering if somebody could help make it look like this a bit?

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    • also, if anyone knows how to add depth and height sort of effects onto an image (mountain-looking things), I'd also want that help

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    • Seems like a tricky task to create a relief map but it could be done potentially. I'll see if I can find any way to do that.

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    • thx

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    • Is that map of Piggy Island you made located on Piggy Planet?

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    • yes, it is.

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    • PiggyPlanetIslandNoGraphics

      low quality zoom out photo size bigged

      PiggyIslandNofeaturesoutline

      much more detailed. the shapes are similar

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    • TechKon wrote:
      Seems like a tricky task to create a relief map but it could be done potentially. I'll see if I can find any way to do that.

      I don't mean a full relief map, just something to indicate elevation

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    • Buho Island Flag

      Above is a flag I made for Buho Island, one of the twelve divisions of the Porcalonos.

      Matrix, by any chance would their be individual flags for each of Piggania's states and its territory? (eg. A flag for Birdux)

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    • Yeah for sure, flags will be implemented at some point for Piggania's states/territories

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    • Rohoveyan's counties and territories have flags, but Piggy Island's districts do not have flags.

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    • XD We all spelled Vetronam differently! Cerds thought it was Vertonam, I thought it was Vertronam, it's actually Vetronam!

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    • I meant to say Vetronam.

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    • So did I

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    • This whole time I've been saying Vetronam, but I must've mispelled it as Vertonam, causing you to think I spell it like that.

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    • I also misspelled it

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    • Prepare for my incredible figuring out math skills.

      Rank in area State Area (Mi2) Area (Km2)
      1 Khyanol 107,025 277,196
      2 Ruyom 67,299 174,305
      3 Pig Territory* 62,500 161,874
      4 Cheunaso 59,129 153,145
      5 Eagletopia 48,304 125,108
      6 Cenome 42,381 109,767
      7 Senua 40,442 104,742
      8 Birdux 37,582 97,336
      9 Maxbor 31,250 80,937
      10 North Benum 16,646 43,113
      11 South Benum 8,385 21,719
      - Piggania Overall 521,022 1,349,442

      *Not a state, but a territory.

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    • That would seem legit, but the area overall is just gigantic with a country whose population is 11,000,000

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    • Population density is about 23 people per square mile. That's extremely low, especially given the seemingly crowded feel of Piggania. I feel like Piggania's base area is just too large.

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    • Never really considered those logistics back when I made Piggania but i might look into increasing the original population. Thanks guys

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    • Also, *Vertonam

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    • Is it Vertonam or Vetronam?

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    • It is Vertonam. 
      Non-Transparent Piggy Planet Map with Borders and Names 2

      Proof

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    • ok. Vertonam. Gr8.

      Recommended population should be more than Rohoveyan since Rohoveyan is much bigger, but it's so Arctic and sparsley populated.

      Piggania seems around 60 million with that area size tbh

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    • I worked out the area thing with the power of the distance between Odwinton Hills and Marton's village (half a kilometer) and MS Paint (counting the amount of pixels within each state)

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    • well, the population needs increasing nonetheless

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    • It seems fine to me TBH.

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    • I'll probably increase it to at least 30-40 mil to make it a bit more realistic

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      It seems fine to me TBH.

      not when we look at how many birds and pigs actually seem to live there.

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    • If you gonna increase to population of Piggania in general, should you increase the population of the cities?

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      If you gonna increase to population of Piggania in general, should you increase the population of the cities?

      tbh I always felt like Piggania was a place with a lot of cities and small towns rather than clustered in one big city

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    • I'll soon make an official Rohoveyan flag and maps

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    • 258,512 is Buho's population so far on the city list page. I estimate a total of about 260,000 Buho Island residents

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    • I will do this for the rest of the islands and tell u how many people u have left to spend

      1. Loro: 361,024
      2. Zumbadora: 275,955
      3. Buho: 258,512
      4. Tecolote: 246,226
      5. Túcan: 235,223
      6. Paloma: 132,043
      7. Colibri: 131,934
      8. Falaropo: 131,383
      9. Gorrion: 107,441
      10. Carpintero: 106,154
      11. Pinzón: 104,411
      12. Garza: 80,201

      You have 283,244 people left to spread among smaller towns! That's a lot...

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    • You forgot Tucan and Zumbadora Islands.

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      You forgot Tucan and Zumbadora Islands.

      bro I was in the middle of typing this, I was editing it as I calculated

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    • FANDOM Creeper wrote: I will do this for the rest of the islands and tell u how many people u have left to spend

      1. Loro: 361,024
      2. Zumbadora: 275,955
      3. Buho: 258,512
      4. Tecolote: 246,226
      5. Túcan: 235,223
      6. Paloma: 132,043
      7. Colibri: 131,934
      8. Falaropo: 131,383
      9. Gorrion: 107,441
      10. Carpintero: 106,154
      11. Pinzón: 104,411
      12. Garza: 80,201

      You have 283,244 people left to spread among smaller towns! That's a lot...

      I know, but I plan to make only 2,000 or so live in smaller towns and have the rest live in rural area's and farms.

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    • TechKon wrote: I'll probably increase it to at least 30-40 mil to make it a bit more realistic

      433rjw
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    • oof ok

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:

      TechKon wrote: I'll probably increase it to at least 30-40 mil to make it a bit more realistic

      433rjw

      It was 30-40 million, not 20-30 million

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    • There were 11.8 million people before, but he made it 30-40 million, so he added 20-30 million to the population.

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    • oh ok I misread it sorry

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    • Nice meme lol

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    • yep

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    • aside from the ones on the Piggania page, have you named any other Birdux counties?

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    • I dont believe so

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    • Just wanted to post this image.
      Dank Anthem Meme
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    • no u don't

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    • I feel like the whole "Piggy Planet North Inuit Territory" thing was a bad idea

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    • Yeah they wont be called Inuits

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    • I think the Arctic should be territory claimed by multiple nations. For example, the Rohoveyanic Arctic Unincorporated Territory. Just my idea

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    • Matrix, how come you're not responding to our Porcalonos Vacation Chat?

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    • Sorry guys, got busy with other things outside of the wiki idk if Ill have time to roleplay.

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    • Oh, it's just a chat. It's not hard to just say you've flown to La Pluma. Then, we can start.

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    • First off, where've you been TechKon? You've not been responding to anything in a while....

      Secondly, which site/app was used for the Piggania elevation map?

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    • I've been busy with life in general - haven't had much time to log on to Wikia lately. Also, I used Paint.NET and just used the paintbrush tool but you can really use anything as long as you can make multiple layers.

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    • oh...it must have taken a lot of time to make those then! Anyway, have you seen what EGP6 and I have done with PP so far?

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    • No not yet. But can you give me a bit of a recap on it so far? Im excited to see what yall have added

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    • We've done some work on the seasons: We have two other seasons: Winaspring and Falmer with their own features. We've made pages for all the OG PP nations except Khan, Wingbury, and Autonomous Republic which we decided to scrap. I moved my main interest from Rohoveyane to Dellse.

      And, piggest of all, Encyclopedia Piggyplanetia, a place where we just put all PP related stuff

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    • Rank State Density (p/km2) Density (p/mi2)
      1 South Benum 42.12 109.09
      2 Birdux 17.46 45.23
      3 Cheunaso 13.6 35.22
      4 Maxbor 13.57 35.16
      5 Senua 12.02 31.13
      6 Khyanol 7.52 19.47
      7 Eagletopia 7.19 18.63
      8 Cenome 6.04 15.64
      9 Ruyom 4.06 10.5
      10 North Benum 2.71 7.02
      11 Pig Territory* 2.45 6.34
      -​ Piggania Overall 8.77 22.71

      *​Not a state, but a territory.

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    • Tensions between the Pig Territory, and the rest of Piggania dropped in 2018 when the pigs got a new leader who did away with the "agressive, let's eat eggs" type of thing. Pigs are now widespread members of Piggania, and can be found in a lot of cities there. However, the Pig Territory is still secretive and violent, having the highest assault and murder rates as well as the highest crime rate in Piggania. The city of Porktown, and the town of Stroganoff are pretty much the only really safe places at this point, where the government is strict, and it feels normal.

      Aron dropped security around Intuk and Leafpond because it was using too much time and money, and the PT was no longer a threat.

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      Prepare for my incredible figuring out math skills.
      Rank in area State Area (Mi2) Area (Km2)
      1 Khyanol 107,025 277,196
      2 Ruyom 67,299 174,305
      3 Pig Territory* 62,500 161,874
      4 Cheunaso 59,129 153,145
      5 Eagletopia 48,304 125,108
      6 Cenome 42,381 109,767
      7 Senua 40,442 104,742
      8 Birdux 37,582 97,336
      9 Maxbor 31,250 80,937
      10 North Benum 16,646 43,113
      11 South Benum 8,385 21,719
      - Piggania Overall 521,022 1,349,442

      *Not a state, but a territory.

      I think you messed up the conversions. 48,304 miles is not 125,108 kilometers, and IDK which one you measured with (kilo or miles), so IDK which one is correct...

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    • ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      I worked out the area thing with the power of the distance between Odwinton Hills and Marton's village (half a kilometer) and MS Paint (counting the amount of pixels within each state)

      I guess you used kilometers then

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    • FANDOM Creeper wrote:
      ExcitedGreenPig6 wrote:
      Prepare for my incredible figuring out math skills.
      Rank in area State Area (Mi2) Area (Km2)
      1 Khyanol 107,025 277,196
      2 Ruyom 67,299 174,305
      3 Pig Territory* 62,500 161,874
      4 Cheunaso 59,129 153,145
      5 Eagletopia 48,304 125,108
      6 Cenome 42,381 109,767
      7 Senua 40,442 104,742
      8 Birdux 37,582 97,336
      9 Maxbor 31,250 80,937
      10 North Benum 16,646 43,113
      11 South Benum 8,385 21,719
      - Piggania Overall 521,022 1,349,442

      *Not a state, but a territory.

      I think you messed up the conversions. 48,304 miles is not 125,108 kilometers, and IDK which one you measured with (kilo or miles), so IDK which one is correct...

      Nope, old self, you messed up. You forgot to square the kilometers and miles

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